gooner666 > 20/01/2016, 14:00
(19/01/2016, 23:16)Rambo123 Wrote: Its true......stats can be used by people with an angle....including an arsenal angle! I think goals per game is probably a better measure than total scored, but it doesn't tell all the story.keep Arsene,,why fix the roof if it aint leaking
For example Rooney has more assists than Henry did, and for most of his prime seasons he was not played as the out and out striker in the team but still managed to bang in the goals. Also, he moved to United when still 18, so a lot of those games would have been as a developing player, whereas Henry arrived at 22.
I am a united fan - but would probably say Henry edges it as an out and out striker, the better overall footballer? More open.
Unrelated hypothetical question for Gunners fans - Pep Guardiola says hes choosing his next club this week, and his preference is Arsenal. No way of waiting, he wants to start immediately and this will be the only team he will ever coach in the premier league. Do you fire Wenger (as respectfully as possible) and hire Pep? (Wenger says he wont stay on in any capacity if fired, isn't bitter but will move elsewhere)
Jose Mourinho > 20/01/2016, 16:23
gooner666 > 20/01/2016, 22:51
Rambo123 > 22/01/2016, 22:36
gooner666 > 23/01/2016, 15:17
(22/01/2016, 22:36)Rambo123 Wrote: As a non-Arsenal fan I would have thought Guardiola would be a better choice.ok i get you but totally Disagree with you,, why do people keep picking holes in us about not winning the title,fuck nor have a lot of teams,Spurs,Liverpool,Everton fuck Man city only won it cos they bought and bought and bought,they are all big teams they are NOT under the microscope like us,,just goes to show how they are all in awe of us,,how can you actually say he (Pep) would come in and succeed,damn, he has managed in shit leagues so he,s got a reputation but bring him here he,ll just be like Van Gaal and Kloop an average manager out of his depth,,its not loyalty its just Arsene has kept the sun shining over north london for decades now not like other teams,getting new tiles if there is the slightest drip ;)
Like it or not, one day Arsene will be gone and you will be facing the same situation we (united) have gone/are going through. I feel one of the only people who could come straight in and succeed would be Pep. Under the scenario I gave above, for me it would be a no-brainer.
Also, while I like Arsene a lot, its difficult to argue against the fact that he has under-achieved in the last decade. I know there have been some mitigating factors, but to not win the league once in that time is pretty shocking. A couple of FA Cups doesn't change that (although back to back is pretty good). They have a great chance this year but that is mainly down to the relative weakness at the top of the table, and even then its not a given. If United can't get back in the mix then I really hope Arsenal can do it (unless of course Leicester can pull off the fairy tale - as that would be pure magic).
To go back to your analogy - the roof might not be leaking but that's because the sun is shining - doesn't mean the holes aren't there!
But I admire the loyalty! I'll be honest, if Fergie was still in and the same question was asked of me....I think my heart would rule my head also.
Jose Mourinho > 23/01/2016, 15:43
gooner666 > 23/01/2016, 15:52
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