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XBOX 720 0R PS4?

• XBOX 720 0R PS4?

• RE: XBOX 720 0R PS4?

  humiliateme > 21/01/2012, 09:57

  i spose if i had to make a choice now, the only thing i could go off is when the 360 and ps3 came out, in which case i'll get the xbox as back when the current consoles came out the ps3 was stupidly over priced, there were very few decent games.
  
  i'm also not a fan of sonys pricing in general, for example when the first xbox came out, which i bought on day of release, it was over priced, microsofts answer was to send everyone who bought at the higher price, two games of their choice and a controller which retail price came to more than the price drop.
  
  when sony realised they were overpriced, they dropped the price but they did it by getting rid of the memory card readers, the backwards compatibility and some other decent features that everyone wanted

• RE: XBOX 720 0R PS4?

  jesslloydfan > 21/01/2012, 17:24

  (21/01/2012, 09:57)humiliateme Wrote: i spose if i had to make a choice now, the only thing i could go off is when the 360 and ps3 came out, in which case i'll get the xbox as back when the current consoles came out the ps3 was stupidly over priced, there were very few decent games.
  
  i'm also not a fan of sonys pricing in general, for example when the first xbox came out, which i bought on day of release, it was over priced, microsofts answer was to send everyone who bought at the higher price, two games of their choice and a controller which retail price came to more than the price drop.
  
  when sony realised they were overpriced, they dropped the price but they did it by getting rid of the memory card readers, the backwards compatibility and some other decent features that everyone wanted

  See if i had to make a choice now it would be the PS4 without question, and i never thought the ps2 was that overpriced really when you consider that it had a blu ray player and backwards compatability in built, technology isn't always cheap to produce, and while it would of been nice to still have the backwards compatability obviously removing it made them able to sell the consoles cheaper.

• RE: XBOX 720 0R PS4?

  humiliateme > 21/01/2012, 17:40

  yes, but my point was microsoft made it cheaper without removing any features, and while you might say it's because microsoft had a higher markup on the 360, it's not true as when they dropped the price they were making a loss for quite a while on each unit.
  
  also as for the blu ray player, don't forget the blu ray player tech is proprietary sony tech and so it would cost almost nothing for them to chuck one in a console
  
  personally i always find it funny when people talk about the reason for the ps3's current price being the blu ray, as you could buy a top end 360 and a blu ray player and still have change for a game or two for the cost of a ps3
  
  plus you only need look back at other products to see that sony has a long and proud history of overcharging for its products just because they have the sony name on them, they're obviously not even in the same ball park as apple as far as that's concerned but they're pretty bad about it.
  
  again i'm not saying by any means that microsoft sell all there stuff at very reasonable/fair prices etc... just that based on history sony is the worst culprit for over charging out of the two

• RE: XBOX 720 0R PS4?

  jesslloydfan > 21/01/2012, 18:47

  Yeah but in fairness the 360 didn't have as many features as the ps3 to start with because microsoft never even made any effort to include backwards compatability into the 360,
  and in regards to the price of the ps3 now, i'm fairly certain that if hd dvd hadn't totally bombed and they were selling them seperately that the 360 would be more expensive.
  Although i do agree mate they all overcharge for their products.

• RE: XBOX 720 0R PS4?

  humiliateme > 21/01/2012, 18:55

  well back when hd dvd was around you could get a 360 and hd dvd drive for less than a ps3 at the time, i know because i was selling them back then, and i don't think backwards compatibility was as big a deal for xbox guys as there was only one console that came before the 360 as opposed to the playstation's two.
  
  also microsoft had no chance with hd dvd, mainly because sony own a lot of film companys and those they didn't own they forced into exclusive contracts, so microsft were left with only one or two companys that were even allowed to put there films on hd dvd, which is a shame really as the quality of hd dvd's was extremely close to blue ray, and the films were cheaper on it as well, but unfortunately hd dvd did go the way of betamax ad minidiscs etc..
  
  not that blu ray will be around for much longer as pretty much every company has said they want to go the way of digital downloads and the only thing that's really holding them back is the current broadband infrastructure in place, that's currently getting overhauled. but that's way off topic so i'll stop there

• RE: XBOX 720 0R PS4?

  jesslloydfan > 22/01/2012, 14:36

  (21/01/2012, 18:55)humiliateme Wrote: well back when hd dvd was around you could get a 360 and hd dvd drive for less than a ps3 at the time, i know because i was selling them back then, and i don't think backwards compatibility was as big a deal for xbox guys as there was only one console that came before the 360 as opposed to the playstation's two.
  
  also microsoft had no chance with hd dvd, mainly because sony own a lot of film companys and those they didn't own they forced into exclusive contracts, so microsft were left with only one or two companys that were even allowed to put there films on hd dvd, which is a shame really as the quality of hd dvd's was extremely close to blue ray, and the films were cheaper on it as well, but unfortunately hd dvd did go the way of betamax ad minidiscs etc..
  
  not that blu ray will be around for much longer as pretty much every company has said they want to go the way of digital downloads and the only thing that's really holding them back is the current broadband infrastructure in place, that's currently getting overhauled. but that's way off topic so i'll stop there

  Yeah it was probably cheaper then but if hd dvd had sold better and they were still making them, they would probably have increased the prices of 360, it's just what companys like microsoft and sony do.
  ,there was only one console but including a little backwards compatability would of been good for the people that owned an Xbox before the 360.
  
  
  
  

• RE: XBOX 720 0R PS4?

  humiliateme > 22/01/2012, 14:43

  well a lot of the big games from xbox can be played on the 360. it just doesn't have complete backwards compatibility, and to be fair i've never once heard anyone complain about it as even if the game discs aren't backwards compatible you can just get them on live. it always seemed to be a far bigger deal to playstation guys about backwards compatibility
  
  and i can't see them starting low and then raising the prices, that's just not how it works, if anything they would have lowered prices to get even more people to buy it etc...
  
  just look at any technology and you'll see that success + time = lower prices.
  
  and it would never have affected the cost of the console itself as it was a stand alone external unit so those that didn't want it, didn't have to pay for it, and if they had put it inside it would have only happened recently when the slim came out and wouldn't have made that any more expensive as microsoft would have just put a hd dvd drive inside instead of the standard one

• RE: XBOX 720 0R PS4?

  jesslloydfan > 22/01/2012, 18:56

  Yeah maybe.
  But anyway i don't think either Sony or Microsoft will want to rush out their next consoles, Sony because they have more planned for the Ps3 and Microsoft because last time they sort of rushed out the 360 a bit and it had the red ring of death, which while admittedly not as widespread as some said it was still a problem with the consoles and i don't think they'll want that happening again.

• RE: XBOX 720 0R PS4?

  JUNIOR88 > 08/02/2012, 10:49

  i have had xbox and ps for my whole life so ill prob get both tbh but if i had to choose one i would prob go with xbox 360 but all depends on what the specs are when it come out man i cant wait
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