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What's your console?

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• RE: What's your console?

  humiliateme > 27/09/2011, 03:14

  (27/09/2011, 03:06)jesslloydfan Wrote:

  (27/09/2011, 02:59)humiliateme Wrote:

  (27/09/2011, 02:19)jesslloydfan Wrote:

  (27/09/2011, 02:06)humiliateme Wrote:

  (27/09/2011, 01:43)jesslloydfan Wrote: Ps3 for me, and i also own a psp,
  never really felt the urge to buy an xbox and i find Wii to be very gimmicky, and personally i`ve never had problems with the ps3`s online service.

  
  i did have a psp for a while back when they first came out, but i ended up getting rid of it as i hardly ever used it

  I`ll give you that they don`t release as many games on psp. but there are some quality games that i play alot,
  for example the God of war prequel games are great, but then God of war are generally among my favourite games every playstation they release a new edition for.

  
  see i never got into god of war, as i didn't own a ps2 at any point. again the thing this thread keeps coming back to is the only real thing to differentiate the systems is which exclusive games you like the most

  Basically yeah, i`ve just always been more interested in the exclusives for ps3 as compared to the xbox exclusives.

  
  and i'm the opposite, little big planet looks like it'd be fun, and i wouldn't mind a go on whatever the ps3's fps is called (the one with the bad guys wearing the gas mask type things, name escapes me lol)
  
  but i've had xbox's since i got the first one on day of release and i've been hooked on the story of halo and gears ever since. That being said if the ps3 took a massive price drop, or i could get one cheap second hand then i'd pick one up, but it'd need to be one of the first ones with full backwards compatibility and the memory card reader etc...

• RE: What's your console?

  chrisman > 27/09/2011, 14:27

  see I like that the PS3 has free online, but I find the service from xbox live is better, which is what I'm happy to pay for. Plus while it' £40 a year, the xbox is so much cheaper that the difference kind of comes out in the wash. Never played god of war either, but I've heard nothing but good about it.

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  Plus I like having a gamerscore, I don't think the trophies lend the same fun networking aspect to the gaming that the gamerscore does.

• RE: What's your console?

  jesslloydfan > 27/09/2011, 14:54

  (27/09/2011, 14:27)chrisman Wrote: see I like that the PS3 has free online, but I find the service from xbox live is better, which is what I'm happy to pay for. Plus while it' £40 a year, the xbox is so much cheaper that the difference kind of comes out in the wash. Never played god of war either, but I've heard nothing but good about it.

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  Plus I like having a gamerscore, I don't think the trophies lend the same fun networking aspect to the gaming that the gamerscore does.

  Thats the thing part of why i don`t have an xbox is the fact that you have to pay for online i think its blatantly money grubbing when you have the ps3 providing it for free, and i like the trophies i tend to obsessively try and get all of them on certain games lol, but each to their own.
  I will say though if you ever get a ps3 get the god of war collections and god of war 3, they`re brilliant games.
  
  I`ve never got this thing where some xbox fans and some ps3 fans feel they have to hate the fans of the other just because they have a different preference in their gaming choice, especially when there are some great multi platform games that both can enjoy and even talk about if they wanna chat about gaming, rather than have pointless arguments.

• RE: What's your console?

  humiliateme > 27/09/2011, 15:25

  (27/09/2011, 14:54)jesslloydfan Wrote:

  (27/09/2011, 14:27)chrisman Wrote: see I like that the PS3 has free online, but I find the service from xbox live is better, which is what I'm happy to pay for. Plus while it' £40 a year, the xbox is so much cheaper that the difference kind of comes out in the wash. Never played god of war either, but I've heard nothing but good about it.

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  Plus I like having a gamerscore, I don't think the trophies lend the same fun networking aspect to the gaming that the gamerscore does.

  Thats the thing part of why i don`t have an xbox is the fact that you have to pay for online i think its blatantly money grubbing when you have the ps3 providing it for free, and i like the trophies i tend to obsessively try and get all of them on certain games lol, but each to their own.
  I will say though if you ever get a ps3 get the god of war collections and god of war 3, they`re brilliant games.
  
  I`ve never got this thing where some xbox fans and some ps3 fans feel they have to hate the fans of the other just because they have a different preference in their gaming choice, especially when there are some great multi platform games that both can enjoy and even talk about if they wanna chat about gaming, rather than have pointless arguments.

  
  the thing i would point out is that yes you pay for xbox live but is a far more well rounded experience and seems to "just work better"
  
  also i don't really think you can call M$ more money grabbing than sony lol
  
  as far as trophies/gamerscore, i was a massive gamerscore whore, that was untill m$ decided to reset my gs and when i asked why, they said "you cheated" so i asked them for specifics to which i got the reply of "we don't need to give specifics, we know we're right" and i can tell you considering i had over 85,000 points (you normally get 1000gs per game although there are a few with more, but to get the full lot it's the equivalent of getting every single trophy in a game) which took quite a lot of gaming and skill if i do say so myself to get, i very nearly chucked out my xbox and bought a ps3 out of protest lol!

• RE: What's your console?

  jesslloydfan > 27/09/2011, 15:43

  (27/09/2011, 15:25)humiliateme Wrote:

  (27/09/2011, 14:54)jesslloydfan Wrote:

  (27/09/2011, 14:27)chrisman Wrote: see I like that the PS3 has free online, but I find the service from xbox live is better, which is what I'm happy to pay for. Plus while it' £40 a year, the xbox is so much cheaper that the difference kind of comes out in the wash. Never played god of war either, but I've heard nothing but good about it.

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  Plus I like having a gamerscore, I don't think the trophies lend the same fun networking aspect to the gaming that the gamerscore does.

  Thats the thing part of why i don`t have an xbox is the fact that you have to pay for online i think its blatantly money grubbing when you have the ps3 providing it for free, and i like the trophies i tend to obsessively try and get all of them on certain games lol, but each to their own.
  I will say though if you ever get a ps3 get the god of war collections and god of war 3, they`re brilliant games.
  
  I`ve never got this thing where some xbox fans and some ps3 fans feel they have to hate the fans of the other just because they have a different preference in their gaming choice, especially when there are some great multi platform games that both can enjoy and even talk about if they wanna chat about gaming, rather than have pointless arguments.

  
  the thing i would point out is that yes you pay for xbox live but is a far more well rounded experience and seems to "just work better"
  
  also i don't really think you can call M$ more money grabbing than sony lol
  
  as far as trophies/gamerscore, i was a massive gamerscore whore, that was untill m$ decided to reset my gs and when i asked why, they said "you cheated" so i asked them for specifics to which i got the reply of "we don't need to give specifics, we know we're right" and i can tell you considering i had over 85,000 points (you normally get 1000gs per game although there are a few with more, but to get the full lot it's the equivalent of getting every single trophy in a game) which took quite a lot of gaming and skill if i do say so myself to get, i very nearly chucked out my xbox and bought a ps3 out of protest lol!

  Ok to be fair they`re all about as money grubbing as each other lol,
  i just think its a bit cheap to charge people to play online when people already pay alot of money for games and controllers.
  
  Damn all your points lol, that is bad, that would of really pissed me off lol.
  
  

• RE: What's your console?

  chrisman > 28/09/2011, 10:31

  I think part of what you pay for with live is stronger servers generally and I think there are more live users than psn users (though I don't have the numbers so I could be wrong). I think the other thing to remember is that, with the exception of sega's failed online networking with the dreamcast, microsoft were the first to offer it as a feature, the ps2 was upgradable and in its late stages had some games with online functions, but I never had a clue how to use it and it wasn't in built as I recall. So they obviously opted to charge for the online subscription as the internet was a lot more expensive for a lot less performance in those days, plus as not everyone would use it, it was an additional feature. Fast forward to now, when nintendo and sony offer online for free, it presents a problem. If you come in line with the other companies and drop the subs fee, A. your losing money people are forking out by the thousands, which can easily maintain the servers full of halo, GoW and CoD fanatics to name but a few, and B. Those who have just bought a years subs cant use it. Your only option would be to reinburse those who are part way through a subscription for the appropriate amount, or dish out some sort of equivelant in MS points. Of course this is doable, but a logistical nightmare, and when looking at it, microsoft are likely to say "what real difference would it make?". And in fairness, if we were running a business we would likely draw the same conclusion, as the money you would get from say, people switching from ps3s to xboxs wouldn't come close to the money from xbox live subs.

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  Appologies for the long post, I think I think about this stuff too much, nice to have a forum to discuss it!

• RE: What's your console?

  dVIOUS > 28/09/2011, 11:38

  Problem with the online on consoles is that the server is hosted locally by one of the players in the game.
  In the pc gaming world, it's done via dedicated servers (or atleast used to be, some game companies are changing to the gay console system), so you pay monthly for your own server which is always up, and you can change settings on it etc.
  This way, rather than 10-20 people connecting to some random 15 year olds xbox via their 10Mb/s connection, everyone connects to a server which is incredibly fast, and has some super high commercial internet connection, like 1Gb/s or something silly.
  
  Also, this means when the guy hosting the server decides its time to go play with his old boy in the bathroom whilst his parents are out, when he leaves the game it won't pause it for a minute to try migrate to a new host.
  

• RE: What's your console?

  chrisman > 28/09/2011, 12:33

  I do love pc gaming, I just don't have the money to keep upgrading. Though command and conquer games occasionally make me upgrade, I cant stomach the console versions.

• RE: What's your console?

  humiliateme > 28/09/2011, 17:10

  (28/09/2011, 11:38)dVIOUS Wrote: Problem with the online on consoles is that the server is hosted locally by one of the players in the game.
  In the pc gaming world, it's done via dedicated servers (or atleast used to be, some game companies are changing to the gay console system), so you pay monthly for your own server which is always up, and you can change settings on it etc.
  This way, rather than 10-20 people connecting to some random 15 year olds xbox via their 10Mb/s connection, everyone connects to a server which is incredibly fast, and has some super high commercial internet connection, like 1Gb/s or something silly.
  
  Also, this means when the guy hosting the server decides its time to go play with his old boy in the bathroom whilst his parents are out, when he leaves the game it won't pause it for a minute to try migrate to a new host.

  
  i've never really had any problems in that sense with the 360, it's ability to jump to a new host is almost imediate, or at the very least so fast that i don't notice it (obviously there are exceptions, for instance if your playing a very old game with not many people on-line)
  
  so i don't really see that as a downside to console on-line

• RE: What's your console?

  jesslloydfan > 28/09/2011, 17:18

  (28/09/2011, 17:10)humiliateme Wrote:

  (28/09/2011, 11:38)dVIOUS Wrote: Problem with the online on consoles is that the server is hosted locally by one of the players in the game.
  In the pc gaming world, it's done via dedicated servers (or atleast used to be, some game companies are changing to the gay console system), so you pay monthly for your own server which is always up, and you can change settings on it etc.
  This way, rather than 10-20 people connecting to some random 15 year olds xbox via their 10Mb/s connection, everyone connects to a server which is incredibly fast, and has some super high commercial internet connection, like 1Gb/s or something silly.
  
  Also, this means when the guy hosting the server decides its time to go play with his old boy in the bathroom whilst his parents are out, when he leaves the game it won't pause it for a minute to try migrate to a new host.

  
  i've never really had any problems in that sense with the 360, it's ability to jump to a new host is almost imediate, or at the very least so fast that i don't notice it (obviously there are exceptions, for instance if your playing a very old game with not many people on-line)
  
  so i don't really see that as a downside to console on-line

  i've never had a problem with console online either, only problems i've had tend to be when virgin media are being unreliable again, which happens more often lately.
  
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