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  uknighthawk91 > 19/06/2013, 19:02

  (19/06/2013, 08:47)ScottyRampant Wrote: He worked with Hodgson at West Brom as well, which might count for something.
  
  Using that logic, Phil Neville would be a good shout as well. Super unproven obviously, but he seems to know his stuff.

  
  Definitely does, they obviously need to both be confident in each others ability to work together. As much as they are treated like different teams i think they need to be more open and working together as a unit in order to help bring those players through in a more experienced environment and a previous partnership can only aid that. That's why i think Appleton would be great for the role.
  
  Phil Neville would be a cracking shout, he would need some guidence though so i would, if it is him, then maybe looking at bringing in a co-manager or assistant who can be a solid adivsor.
  
  A shout that i haven't seen mentioned and somebody i think could sneak up into the fold would be David Platt, providing Mancini doesn't take him to his next gig this summer.

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  StrumSolo > 20/06/2013, 11:50

  Platt's a decent shout. Did ok when he had the job 2001-03 and is obviously more experienced now. Would the FA be willing to go back? Probably, Peter Taylor's still lurking after all.
  
  Difficult to get them working as a unit IMO. As I mentioned in a previous post, there's such a dearth of English talent that as soon as a promising youngster has half a decent season he's picked off by the seniors. And if that player is a genuine option, he's probably better off playing at the highest possible level
  
  Compare that to Spain. They just won the trophy with the likes of De Gea, Thiago and Isco in their squad, players with limited senior experience. If they were English they'd have been in the senior squad a while now.

• RE: England u21s

  uknighthawk91 > 20/06/2013, 19:23

  Yeah i completely agree, the quality of depth is not there at all and that's down to the countries teams as a whole using foreign scouts and signing instead of a solid youth set-up.
  
  I think we'll see a massive change, give it 6-10 years when all of the fair play stuff has kicked in, new regulations and the new England youth set-up, with all the teams and training camps at the new facility. But yeah we just need to work with what we have for now and hope that it turns around. We do seem to be bringing through a different type of player now though. We've got that European style about us, lots of small players who can pass the ball and keep hold of possession going forward. We need to get a manager in the First team and throughout the whole youth system that can teach that type of play because that's why Spain, Italy, Germany are that good. They teach the same principles and style of play throughout the squads.

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  roystonmerchant > 22/06/2013, 16:40

  Personally I think the FA should start by looking at the players are pulled into the full international squads at the expanse of the U21's.
  
  Then start calling these players up and making them prove these so called injuries exist.
  
  Now get hold of the Premier League clubs and encourage them to use youth development. The financial fair play rules are a start, as is 25 man squad rule, but it's not enough. Half of the U21 players at these clubs, especially the "big 4", are not English, let alone British.
  
  Only then can they start looking looking at the coaching, which in my opinion we have some very fine coaches out there already, but some could certainly do a little more experience at the top level or even abroad.
  
  But the key lesson my be to look at the example of the Spanish and Germans. OK we may have to right off ten years of international football but the way we are going at the moment what's to loose???
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