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AVB'S GONE!

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• AVB'S GONE!

  StrumSolo > 16/12/2013, 12:40

  Like Steve Clarke (sacked on Sunday) you might have thought that he'd have built up a bit more credit after a decent first season.
  
  Spurs finished 5th in 2012/13 with 72 points, a club-record Premier League total, and more often than not enough for Champions League qualification. Yes they were overly reliant on Gareth Bale in getting there, but he'd improve any side. Real Madrid didn't spend 80-odd million on him for the fun of it...
  
  The board clearly were't shy about reinvesting that cash and the summer signings looked shrewd and impressive (on paper). It's not always that simple though and when you bring in 7 or 8 new faces they're bound to take a while to gel. Maybe AVB would have brought about the improvement they're looking for if he was given a bit more time?
  
  Still, 6-0 away to City and 5-0 at home to Liverpool yesterday... Pretty embarrassing, and certainly enough to give the impression you haven't got a clue. But looking at the wider picture, they're only 5 points off the Champions League places, and are going well in Europe. It's hardly been a catastrophic season overall.
  
  Too hasty or the right move? And who's going to replace him?
  
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  Hilary Briss > 16/12/2013, 12:43

  Can someone tell me why he ever got to manage a football team ?
  
  What are his credentials ?
  
  Who did he play for ?
  
  What has he won as a manager ?
  
  Perhaps he has a glorious track record and I am mistaken. Please enlighten me.

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  StrumSolo > 16/12/2013, 12:45

  (16/12/2013, 12:43)Hilary Briss Wrote: Can someone tell me why he ever got to manage a football team ?
  
  What are his credentials ?
  
  Who did he play for ?
  
  What has he won as a manager ?
  
  Perhaps he has a glorious track record and I am mistaken. Please enlighten me.

  
  Won the Portuguese title and Europa League with Porto in his first and only season at the club. Been dining out on it ever since.
  
  Never played but he was a scout for Mourinho, genius by association innit.

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  Hilary Briss > 16/12/2013, 12:52

  (16/12/2013, 12:45)ScottyRampant Wrote:

  (16/12/2013, 12:43)Hilary Briss Wrote: Can someone tell me why he ever got to manage a football team ?
  
  What are his credentials ?
  
  Who did he play for ?
  
  What has he won as a manager ?
  
  Perhaps he has a glorious track record and I am mistaken. Please enlighten me.

  
  Won the Portuguese title and Europa League with Porto in his first and only season at the club. Been dining out on it ever since.
  
  Never played but he was a scout for Mourinho, genius by association innit.

  
  So he won with Mourinho's Porto team ?

• RE: AVB'S GONE!

  StrumSolo > 16/12/2013, 12:56

  (16/12/2013, 12:52)Hilary Briss Wrote:

  (16/12/2013, 12:45)ScottyRampant Wrote:

  (16/12/2013, 12:43)Hilary Briss Wrote: Can someone tell me why he ever got to manage a football team ?
  
  What are his credentials ?
  
  Who did he play for ?
  
  What has he won as a manager ?
  
  Perhaps he has a glorious track record and I am mistaken. Please enlighten me.

  
  Won the Portuguese title and Europa League with Porto in his first and only season at the club. Been dining out on it ever since.
  
  Never played but he was a scout for Mourinho, genius by association innit.

  
  So he won with Mourinho's Porto team ?

  
  Not really, there was about 7 years in between but to be honest Briss, you could probably win the Portuguese league with Porto.

• RE: AVB'S GONE!

  RussyRover > 16/12/2013, 13:08

  Called it a while back!!!!! Although Steve Clarke did get himself ousted before him, but only just.... Oh to be a Premiership Manager eh!!! Get yourself a nice little pre-nup and be guaranteed to walk away with a bit of lolly for when your owner/board/chairman/whoever deems you intolerable/crap/wanting/whatever and then ooze your way into the next one...
  
  It does seem harsh based on where they are in the table, almost Abramovich like, but it never seemed to be a perfect pairing did it, he was a square peg in a round hole, or maybe it's just those 'Lundin' clubs that find him unsuitable.
  
  So who's gonna be next?? David Moyes anyone???

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  StrumSolo > 16/12/2013, 13:21

  (16/12/2013, 13:08)RussyRover Wrote: So who's gonna be next?? David Moyes anyone???

  
  Sam Allardyce, if anyone, but I reckon this could be the last sacking of the season. We've already had 5, plenty enough.
  
  Capello's the 7/4ish favourite to take over at Spurs, not sure how I feel about that. Clearly a good manager but never really captured the imagination as England boss. Not like old Sven anyway, who's 33 or 66/1 depending where you look. Ha!
  
  Michael Laudrup at 5/1 and Guus Hiddink at 8s seem more sensible and realistic, and I'm surprised (but pleased) to see Pochettino as long as 25/1.

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  Timm24 > 16/12/2013, 14:30

  my gut tells me he's not strong enough to manage in the top flight.
  
  i reckon he sees himself as like a young idealistic type - go for exciting attacking football and all that like guardiola but doesn't have guardiola's brains and doesn't have mourinho's balls...
  
  maybe he could be a good manager - needs to spend some time managing a lower tier club
  
  to answer how he got into top management - the answer is one word - Abramovich. he thought avb was the next mourinho and he's been feeding off that since failing at chelsea
  

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  (16/12/2013, 13:21)ScottyRampant Wrote:

  (16/12/2013, 13:08)RussyRover Wrote: So who's gonna be next?? David Moyes anyone???

  
  Sam Allardyce, if anyone, but I reckon this could be the last sacking of the season. We've already had 5, plenty enough.
  
  Capello's the 7/4ish favourite to take over at Spurs, not sure how I feel about that. Clearly a good manager but never really captured the imagination as England boss. Not like old Sven anyway, who's 33 or 66/1 depending where you look. Ha!
  
  Michael Laudrup at 5/1 and Guus Hiddink at 8s seem more sensible and realistic, and I'm surprised (but pleased) to see Pochettino as long as 25/1.

  
  
  same problem with michael laudrup by the way - too soon. let him actually reach a big milestone with his current club, then maybe he'll be ready for a club like tottenham.

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  StrumSolo > 16/12/2013, 16:57

  (16/12/2013, 14:30)Timm24 Wrote: same problem with michael laudrup by the way - too soon. let him actually reach a big milestone with his current club, then maybe he'll be ready for a club like tottenham.

  
  I don't think he can do too much more with Swansea than win the League Cup. A decent run in the Europa maybe but they're never going to finish top 4 or anything like that.
  
  But you're right though. One decent season (Porto) and they're world-beaters, a few dodgy results (Chelsea, Spurs) and they're a waste of space.
  
  No one's got any bloody patience these days have they?

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  RussyRover > 17/12/2013, 11:58

  Can't believe that Glenn Hoddle is around 6/1, 5/1 on SkyBet?? - do they really want him?? That would be a major step backwards if you ask me... Here's the top 16 'contenders' according to Sky - bring back Arry was the cry yesterday, even the bookies don't think that'll happen...
  
  Tim Sherwood 7/4
  Glenn Hoddle 5/1
  Michael Laudrup 11/2
  Fabio Capello 12/1
  Frank De Boer 12/1
  Mauricio Pochettino 14/1
  Luciano Spalletti 16/1
  Gianfranco Zola 16/1
  Roberto Di Matteo 18/1
  Jurgen Klinsmann 20/1
  Luis Enrique 22/1
  Guus Hiddink 22/1
  Roberto Martinez 33/1
  Rudi Garcia 33/1
  Ralf Rangnick 33/1
  Harry Redknapp 33/1
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