Dont worry, there is a happy ending.

(16/12/2013, 13:00)RussyRover Wrote: Shall we say that about by 6am in the morning our time, that the Ashes will be officially lost.....

I'll take it!

(16/12/2013, 16:58)ScottyRampant Wrote:

(16/12/2013, 13:00)RussyRover Wrote: Shall we say that about by 6am in the morning our time, that the Ashes will be officially lost.....

I'll take it!

You'll get extremely short odds... I'll try and stay awake to watch it, who knows I may even be asleep by 4am!!!

I saw a comment on the Beeb site by someone in Guildford who thought that England could hold out for the draw, I didn't realise that the looney bins in Surrey released their patients for Christmas this early.

I think day four was the icing on the humiliation cake and the next few hours of play will see a big fat cherry sat on the top. There is something about the Western Australia air that turns English teams to pulp even at the best of times, on that theme though we have been utterly pureed this time! You do wonder what goes through Kevin Pietersen's mind at times, I would love to see them have the guts to drop him for Melbourne and Sydney and let the tit sit there and stew things over in his mind because his attitude at the crease has been nothing short of dreadful!

Michel vaughan ever the optimist not" There will be optimistic England fans thinking they can get these runs, but it has never been done before and the tail will have to face the second new ball. It will be late in the morning or just after lunch that Australia regain the Ashes.

To be honest and as is usual with Vaughany he is absolutely spot on. We have a rookie who has never made a test hundred, but has shown up his more experienced colleagues, along with our wicket keeper who is in utterly woeful form and then there is the tail who have their whites turn to brown as soon as Mitchell Johnson marks his run up. The Aussies know they only need one wicket and the rest will go like dominoes!

i havent bothered watching much at all i normally do from what i have seen its been men agaignst overpaid boys i mean peiterson wallacing down the wicket to the quicks and flapping it to feilder is not sending a great message to the young lads they see a senior player in the team given it away they think well if its good enough for him then well do it to Phill tufnel said it right its school boy cricket