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  stjohn66 > 25/08/2017, 22:13

  okay so the perv cam price has been raised and is now in line with the p c prices on the other channnels. i know some have complained for many reasons . some justified. it has been said the price should be lower as the cost of living is lower in thailand, which is a fair point. and it has been said that the girls themselves would not be getting the same percentage as the bs girls. this may be true but we do not know this. it is to be hoped that the girls get the same rate as the bs grils and if that makes them very weell payed in thailand then do be it. if we are complaining that the rate matches the bs rate then isn't it us that are guilty of exploiting the girls ?? as it is the thai perv cams are still by far and away better value for money than the bs girls. trust me i have done extensive research from
  ashley look no hands emma, that should be ashley 'look this is my hand'
  delia rose. or deal or no deal rose. yes she will take the money but she will not open the box.
  cali garcia. or call and you will no seeia.
  none of this is a problem with the thai girls who ask and they will give. and if you want a chat they will do that too. i have been on for a long time with the other girls and i think the longest response i have from any of them was 'LOL' sometimes people who do not go perv cam on thai chat complain about the girls ' bobbing heads' that is when they are giving their attention to the perv cam users. the bs girls on the other hand are always more interested in the screen presence and seem to give that priority.
  in short the thai perv cam is far superior. but the price rise was huge and sudden, bt as with all things , budget.
  stjohn ( care of martin lewis )

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  mikey99 > 25/08/2017, 23:09

  st john, thanks, I am glad you wrote this because you make some excellent points. Those of us who are Thai Chat fans were indeed shocked at the pc price tripling or quadrupling, in part because we had it so good with 10 credits per minute AND as you crucially point out, the girls really do show you the goods and most of them interact with you via chat. Anytime the cost of anything we enjoy shoots up that much it is disagreeable and requires some budget adjustment. Of course one reason I didn't like it was because suddenly I was getting 1/3 of the value I was getting the day before.
  
  I agree that we should support the Thai girls getting more. A few years back, before pervcam, I knew what they were getting and let me say, it was paltry. Simple exploitation, and I complained a lot about it. So I should have been on board with this, but I have been hesitant to endorse it for two reasons: (1) what it does to TC competitively; (2) how much the girls will actually see from all these changes and the almost exclusive emphasis on perv. On the first point, I think the low Perv rates caused lots of participation and kick-started shows to keep girls moving. That is to say, many customers seem to be reacting not by spending more money, but by limiting their time on perv so they spend the same amount. Some don't visit the pervcams at all. So many shows seem really boring because there is less action, and that can hurt business more than you would think. From a competitive point of view, it remains to be seen whether fewer hits at significantly higher prices will net more that many more hits at a lower rate. But this is an adjustment period, and I imagine BS believes that at some point new customers won't bat an eye and old customers will just get used to (or be resigned to) the new rates and continue to consume with less buying power than before. On the second point, I have written before that if the girls get a fair cut, I am more than happy to pay the new rates. I can't begin to know what the answer is, but from what I knew before let's just say that I am skeptical.
  
  Finally, you know this but it's worth saying that a lot of us felt that this was just one more way in which BS made it hard for TC to compete in their little babeshow world, and over the years whether it's censoring the content, taking it off TV, banishing it from prime time hours, taking away the microphone, dropping the live show from mobile access, etc. etc., it just seemed like the girls have to swim upstream in the fight for business. That's a bummer because I agree 100% with your opinion that they actually give us much better performance on perv than the London girls.
  
  And really finally this time, I want to support the Thai girls in all things, but I must say that if they go to no-show nudity (i.e., all day show) except for perv, as has been suggested might happen, I am not playing along with that.

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  GrandDuke > 26/08/2017, 21:59

  Well said derryman and stjohn66. You both make excellent points and very eloquently put too. I agree with virtually everything you say, and you say so many things. I have been one of those people you refer to who took great exception to the instant tripling of pervcam rates and worse for some girls. I could not phone the girls as I have had continuing phone issues for quite a long time now. All I had was pervcam to communicate with the girls and as a means to reward them. However, my budget is very limited indeed. Unlike most i do not work and I get zero government benefits Over 95% of my life savings have gone since I gave up work so I have to think very carefully about money. To me the price increase was crippling so i reacted angrily and after ranting a little and trying to encourage others to boycott pervcam to try and encourage a change of direction with the shows, I finally gave up my VIP status in protest. However, Jasmine melted my heart once more with her smile the other day and I foolishly resumed as a VIP. However, now shows are often boring to anyone other than a super fan and there are not enough of them to keep the girls employed. The recent crackdown on nudity to even telephone callers is yet another rapid the girls have to fight on their swim against the current. Even girls like Amy who will do her utmost to deliver a good show is being frustrated and stressed by the current situation. Annoyingly, Sami had just come out of her shell as had Nana and both were on the verge of becoming fabulous performers on the show when the bombshell hit telling them to behave as if their elderly aunt was in the room. I am so frustrated at how bad the shows now are when they were on the verge of greatness and conquering lots of their doubters as well as aquiring a horde of new fans..

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  GrandDuke > 26/08/2017, 22:05

  On a separate subject stjohn66, I have posted a detailed guide on acquiring points from posts on the VIP thread on the subject. I was stitched up early on in my visits to the forum when I made over 20 long posts without getting any points. It took quite a while to figure out why but I got there in the end. I know you asked me about this in the chat but I had no context at the time to understand your issue, as I had relinquished my VIP then and was not allowed to read the VIP only thread. i hope you find my advice there useful.

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  GrandDuke > 26/08/2017, 22:13

  Another thing about the price hike is I am the sure the girls see little of it. The extra profits London think it will generate is not being invested in the shows. The feed seems to be working nearly all the time now but the camera itself seems to be breaking down over and over again and for longer and longer intervals. If the stream breaks, you are diverted to another channel instead but as the screen goes black and stays that way for hours, it suggests that stream is still live but nothing is being transmitted from the studio. The girls aren't just swimming upstream anymore, they are having rocks thrown at them! Today's show has been off air for at least 4 hours now. I cannot see how it can survive with so many arrows being fired at it all at the same time. We seem to be the only people who care which worries me greatly for the future.

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  stjohn66 > 26/08/2017, 22:36

  (26/08/2017, 22:13)GrandDuke Wrote: Another thing about the price hike is I am the sure the girls see little of it. The extra profits London think it will generate is not being invested in the shows. The feed seems to be working nearly all the time now but the camera itself seems to be breaking down over and over again and for longer and longer intervals. If the stream breaks, you are diverted to another channel instead but as the screen goes black and stays that way for hours, it suggests that stream is still live but nothing is being transmitted from the studio. The girls aren't just swimming upstream anymore, they are having rocks thrown at them! Today's show has been off air for at least 4 hours now. I cannot see how it can survive with so many arrows being fired at it all at the same time. We seem to be the only people who care which worries me greatly for the future.

  
  yeah. i agree. we do not know how much the girls get of the increase. it would be nice to think they got all of it. which i think would make them quite well off in thailand. but to be honest i have no problem with that. i like the girls, i think they work hard and i am not sure that they have an easy life over there so if they get rich then good for them but like you say i suspect ( but do not know ) that is not the case. to be honest i would be happy with just getting to see them today. i too have been on and off for hours and have not seen them. i was late this morning and had to go out so i got only moments of nana and daisy. i think you know how gutted i was to not be able to get to chat with them. glad you are back to vip. there does not seem to be anyone making vids at the moment.
  stjohn

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  GrandDuke > 26/08/2017, 23:54

  There is a reason why there are no more videos being recorded. In my opinion there is nothing happening on the shows which will prompt someone to press record. People who are making videos over recent weeks, since the clampdown, tend to get the minimum single star for their efforts, compared to a few weeks ago where 4 star videos were becoming commonplace. The only action is happening on pervcam which you cannot record. There is the odd exception to this general rule, usually when Jasmine or Amy are doing a show. Sadly, Daisy has become more reserved with the new rules and needs to work with Jasmine and Amy for her to feel able to loosen her strings.

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  stjohn66 > 02/09/2017, 16:47

  okay. i have been away so this may seem like an old issue. i went perv cam with jasmine ( 'natch ) this morning . ( thanks derryman for telling me where to find it ) and it took exactly 90 tokens. not 85 or 88 or 97 which like it has been know to . but exactly. which is not conclusive but does seem to suggetst that it is taking them in blocks of 30. i do not know exactly how long i was on. it was in the last few minutes ( jas's perv cma was not an option but derryman helped ) so it may well have been less than three. of course it could have been exactly 3 mins but i think that unlikely. the question is now are they just roundin up or going for the nearest minute. i mean if i was on 2 mins 51 not a problem if i was on 2 mins 23 then i do not like it. i think i need to invest in one of those chess clock things and put it on as soon as i go perv cam jsut to keep a watch on them.
  stjohn

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  mikey99 > 02/09/2017, 18:01

  (02/09/2017, 16:47)stjohn66 Wrote: okay. i have been away so this may seem like an old issue. i went perv cam with jasmine ( 'natch ) this morning . ( thanks derryman for telling me where to find it ) and it took exactly 90 tokens. not 85 or 88 or 97 which like it has been know to . but exactly. which is not conclusive but does seem to suggetst that it is taking them in blocks of 30. i do not know exactly how long i was on. it was in the last few minutes ( jas's perv cma was not an option but derryman helped ) so it may well have been less than three. of course it could have been exactly 3 mins but i think that unlikely. the question is now are they just roundin up or going for the nearest minute. i mean if i was on 2 mins 51 not a problem if i was on 2 mins 23 then i do not like it. i think i need to invest in one of those chess clock things and put it on as soon as i go perv cam jsut to keep a watch on them.
  stjohn

  
  I think it is definitely subtracted as a 30-credit block the second you enter that minute. I mistakenly hit a pervcam button, cancelled immediately, but lost 30 credits. when you hit one minute, one second, you lose 60 credits in all. Quite insidious practice and not a word to us about it.

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  stjohn66 > 02/09/2017, 21:36

  for all perv cam users i have a brand new product that i am now the sole supplier of in the uk. it is a clock. hold on i should qualify that. it works in seconds. there is a gentle hum for the first 30 seconds ( this is the SAFE period ) at 40 seconds it gives a beep. and at 50 seconds it gives 2 beeps and then it beeps faster and faster for the last 10 seconds. if you do not 'withdraw' before the alloted time it runs over into the next minute and the process starts again. yes and i am marketing it to you lucky people for only £99:99. oh it is also approved by the pope as it is based on the catholic rythym method. just remember. pull out before and not after.
  stjohn
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