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  jesslloydfan > 16/04/2012, 02:52

  Thought it was odd there was no thread for this already(well there is one but it was started by rambo and the first post is very rambling and slightly incoherent, so that doesn`t count to me, start a better one lol)
  So anyway, the next Bond who is looking forward to this?
  I know there are some who don`t like the newest Bond films but i wasn`t that big a fan of them, until the ones starring Craig, i like the morehard hitting action and the fact that for once Bond looks genuinely dangerous(never got that feeling with Brosnan or a few before him)
  so can`t wait for the new one.
  
  So anyone agree/disagree with me?
  

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  Chillblane > 17/04/2012, 17:27

  The Brosnon ones were what Bond is all about (apart from the last one he did where they were scraping the barrel a bit for ideas), there was humour and gadgets (not to mention the virtually naked ladies at the start of the film.
  
  The Craig films were nothing like a Bond film at all, none of the above at any point and the camera was shaking like it was held by someone with Parkinson's disease for most of the film making it unwatchable in a few places (the car chase at the start of Quantum of Solace being one of those places.
  
  A film should know what it is. Craig's Bond films looked and felt like a very poor imitation of the abysmally made Bourne films rather than the continuation of a great British tradition.
  
  The most interesting thing that all the critics mentioned about Quantum of Solace was? Yep you guessed it, they all said "it starts where the last one left off and that was the first Bond film to do that". As if that was the only redeeming feature about it!!! Unfortunately they were of course right. Poor script again missing the essential Bondisms made it just another routine action film that i didn't car about in the slightest.
  
  If it was up to me Craig would have been fired after the first one along with everyone else who was involved, then they should have been shot.
  
  So no, i'm not wasting my time with the new one, even though they have reportedly put back the gags as i'm past feeling excited about Craig as bond.
  
  I would like to say that Craig is actually a good actor though which is why i'm so surprised that the Bond films he's in have been such turkeys.

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  chantellefoxfan > 17/04/2012, 17:44

  I have never been a big James Bond fan never had the chance to watch them all. This includes the new ones with Craig, which I was hoping to see soon if I ever get the chance. I haven't ever seen James Bond as dangerous or nor would I would to maybe, the whole idea of James Bond to me is this slick, lady charming spy with the ability to thwart any kind of 'villain.' Maybe this is the reason I have put seeing the new ones this far but never the less I am excited to see another Bond movie and proves James Bond is a terrific and a rightly deserved successful film franchise.

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  jesslloydfan > 18/04/2012, 01:47

  (17/04/2012, 17:27)Chillblane Wrote: The Brosnon ones were what Bond is all about (apart from the last one he did where they were scraping the barrel a bit for ideas), there was humour and gadgets (not to mention the virtually naked ladies at the start of the film.
  
  The Craig films were nothing like a Bond film at all, none of the above at any point and the camera was shaking like it was held by someone with Parkinson's disease for most of the film making it unwatchable in a few places (the car chase at the start of Quantum of Solace being one of those places.
  
  A film should know what it is. Craig's Bond films looked and felt like a very poor imitation of the abysmally made Bourne films rather than the continuation of a great British tradition.
  
  The most interesting thing that all the critics mentioned about Quantum of Solace was? Yep you guessed it, they all said "it starts where the last one left off and that was the first Bond film to do that". As if that was the only redeeming feature about it!!! Unfortunately they were of course right. Poor script again missing the essential Bondisms made it just another routine action film that i didn't car about in the slightest.
  
  If it was up to me Craig would have been fired after the first one along with everyone else who was involved, then they should have been shot.
  
  So no, i'm not wasting my time with the new one, even though they have reportedly put back the gags as i'm past feeling excited about Craig as bond.
  
  I would like to say that Craig is actually a good actor though which is why i'm so surprised that the Bond films he's in have been such turkeys.

  I despised the Brosnon Bond films, they were just excuse`s to show half naked women, some mild sexism and then have him look smug.
  (always had the intense urge to punch Brosnon whenever i saw them)
  Bond at least in the storys was never all about the gadgets and women, it included them to a degree, but Bond as a character was always described as a bit rough and more dangerous, something i never felt that Brosnon and especially Moore ever pulled off(Moore was kind of chubby to be totally honest, and brosnon was scrawny) Craig is the first time i`ve seen an actor pull off looking remotely dangerous, whether you like his Bond or not you can`t deny he pulls that off.
  In the end though it`s always going to divide opinion on which Bond is better.
  

• RE: Skyfall 007

  Chillblane > 19/04/2012, 21:59

  (18/04/2012, 01:47)jesslloydfan Wrote:

  (17/04/2012, 17:27)Chillblane Wrote: The Brosnon ones were what Bond is all about (apart from the last one he did where they were scraping the barrel a bit for ideas), there was humour and gadgets (not to mention the virtually naked ladies at the start of the film.
  
  The Craig films were nothing like a Bond film at all, none of the above at any point and the camera was shaking like it was held by someone with Parkinson's disease for most of the film making it unwatchable in a few places (the car chase at the start of Quantum of Solace being one of those places.
  
  A film should know what it is. Craig's Bond films looked and felt like a very poor imitation of the abysmally made Bourne films rather than the continuation of a great British tradition.
  
  The most interesting thing that all the critics mentioned about Quantum of Solace was? Yep you guessed it, they all said "it starts where the last one left off and that was the first Bond film to do that". As if that was the only redeeming feature about it!!! Unfortunately they were of course right. Poor script again missing the essential Bondisms made it just another routine action film that i didn't car about in the slightest.
  
  If it was up to me Craig would have been fired after the first one along with everyone else who was involved, then they should have been shot.
  
  So no, i'm not wasting my time with the new one, even though they have reportedly put back the gags as i'm past feeling excited about Craig as bond.
  
  I would like to say that Craig is actually a good actor though which is why i'm so surprised that the Bond films he's in have been such turkeys.

  I despised the Brosnon Bond films, they were just excuse`s to show half naked women, some mild sexism and then have him look smug.
  (always had the intense urge to punch Brosnon whenever i saw them)
  Bond at least in the storys was never all about the gadgets and women, it included them to a degree, but Bond as a character was always described as a bit rough and more dangerous, something i never felt that Brosnon and especially Moore ever pulled off(Moore was kind of chubby to be totally honest, and brosnon was scrawny) Craig is the first time i`ve seen an actor pull off looking remotely dangerous, whether you like his Bond or not you can`t deny he pulls that off.
  In the end though it`s always going to divide opinion on which Bond is better.

  
  Indeed, difference is what makes us good. I actually prefer the original Connery Bond to any others. And if you mention George Lazonby i may be less than polite in reply, he was the worst bond by a mile.

• RE: Skyfall 007

  jesslloydfan > 19/04/2012, 23:49

  (19/04/2012, 21:59)Chillblane Wrote:

  (18/04/2012, 01:47)jesslloydfan Wrote:

  (17/04/2012, 17:27)Chillblane Wrote: The Brosnon ones were what Bond is all about (apart from the last one he did where they were scraping the barrel a bit for ideas), there was humour and gadgets (not to mention the virtually naked ladies at the start of the film.
  
  The Craig films were nothing like a Bond film at all, none of the above at any point and the camera was shaking like it was held by someone with Parkinson's disease for most of the film making it unwatchable in a few places (the car chase at the start of Quantum of Solace being one of those places.
  
  A film should know what it is. Craig's Bond films looked and felt like a very poor imitation of the abysmally made Bourne films rather than the continuation of a great British tradition.
  
  The most interesting thing that all the critics mentioned about Quantum of Solace was? Yep you guessed it, they all said "it starts where the last one left off and that was the first Bond film to do that". As if that was the only redeeming feature about it!!! Unfortunately they were of course right. Poor script again missing the essential Bondisms made it just another routine action film that i didn't car about in the slightest.
  
  If it was up to me Craig would have been fired after the first one along with everyone else who was involved, then they should have been shot.
  
  So no, i'm not wasting my time with the new one, even though they have reportedly put back the gags as i'm past feeling excited about Craig as bond.
  
  I would like to say that Craig is actually a good actor though which is why i'm so surprised that the Bond films he's in have been such turkeys.

  I despised the Brosnon Bond films, they were just excuse`s to show half naked women, some mild sexism and then have him look smug.
  (always had the intense urge to punch Brosnon whenever i saw them)
  Bond at least in the storys was never all about the gadgets and women, it included them to a degree, but Bond as a character was always described as a bit rough and more dangerous, something i never felt that Brosnon and especially Moore ever pulled off(Moore was kind of chubby to be totally honest, and brosnon was scrawny) Craig is the first time i`ve seen an actor pull off looking remotely dangerous, whether you like his Bond or not you can`t deny he pulls that off.
  In the end though it`s always going to divide opinion on which Bond is better.

  
  Indeed, difference is what makes us good. I actually prefer the original Connery Bond to any others. And if you mention George Lazonby i may be less than polite in reply, he was the worst bond by a mile.

  George Lazenby does seem to be the most unpopular Bond among the fans generally, it`s fair to say Connery`s run as Bond is well liked,
  Craig seems to divide fans the most, his Bond`s have a lot of fans and his portrayal of Bond is a lot closer to the original books interpretation.
  But then obviously some enjoyed the previous ones and don`t enjoy the change in direction, it`s a common thing though people who watch them will always have their favourite and least favourite actors in the part.
  

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  humiliateme > 20/04/2012, 00:56

  i agree with the earlier statement, i whole heartedly hated the craig bond films. i know as it's been pointed out that the new ones are "more like the books" but to be honest i think after 22 films the books are no longer what bond actually is, the first films are what bond is, the crazy gadgets, swaning around in a tux, fast cars and hot women.
  
  the new ones i just found really dull and tedious, and while i agree that as an actor and a man craig could have made for a more intimidating bond than any previous actors i just didn't get that feeling from him in the films, i left thinking "i could kick bonds ass" and i'm no big fighter lol. i think craig had the potential to the be the best bond yet, he just got stuck with the worst of the films. part of the appeal of the old bond films was that he was like a super hero, almost indistructable, he always had a gadget or an idea to get out of danger but craig just seems to get the crap kicked out of him all the time, is that more realistic, yes, but that's not what i want from bond, i want escapism, fun, gadgets etc... you know a real sunday afternoon, cheesy, action film
  
  plus i totaly agree about the camera work in the most recent films, i know it makes me sound like some old git, but i'm not, i'm 28 lol. and i have nothing against quick camera angle changes and in a lot of films it does add a sense of frantic movement etc.. but in the new bonds they really did over do it, one scene i remember was bond fighting someone in a small room, possibly a toilet in a flat in i think the second craig film and i honestly couldn't tell who was hitting who or what was going on even after watching it three times.
  
  the only part i disagree with is that i really liked the bourne films, this might be because i've not read the books and maybe if i did i'd realise the films sucked, but to me the bourne films are what they tried to do and failed with the new bond in that bourne isn't invincible, he doesn't have tons of gadgets, fast cars etc... and yet i got the feeling he was seriously dangerous and it had great action scenes with both fist fighting, weapons and car chases none of which were any good in any of the recent bond films
  
  i do think that the old films could have been updated a bit and maybe made a little less cheesy etc.. but they just went too far with the craig films, i mean he drives a freaking ford focus in one of them and rights off an aston martin because he drives like a 18 yr old girl. i can't take any bond seriously who has a less powerful car than i do lol
  
  i kind of went on a rant there lol, however i truely hate, which is not a word i use lightly the new bond films. so no, i won't be watching the new one lol.

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  jesslloydfan > 01/08/2012, 03:10

  There have been a trailers for this film now, thought i`d post them up on the thread for those that are interested
  the teaser trailer
  the full trailer
  I have to say that personally i think this is looking great so far, reveals part of the film but unlike some trailers doesn`t give away all the major plot points, interesting that they have brought Q in again hopefully they won`t go too gadget mad in it.
  

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  Timm24 > 01/08/2012, 20:22

  original bond films were better. craig ones were ok movies, but not BOND movies. I think it's because this country has run out of suave decent looking actors, who aren't complete twats like jude law types etc, that's why they decided to cast a different sort of guy and therefore change the story for him too.

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  Aj85 > 01/08/2012, 20:31

  As Bond films go I prefer the older ones, I tend to see the new ones just as action films. I think Daniel Craig is a good actor in them but I think the writers / producers need to rethink their labeling.
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